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Gepost: 04 november 2007 10:04 AM   [ Negeer ]   [ # 736 ]  
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Bedankt voor de link Monkeyman.

This page is written by the person that invented the DOE’s biggest project on re-mediation for the ozone hole. Jim Phelps invented the DOE’s “Global Shield” Weather Control Projects in the mid-1980s to compensate for man’s damage to the ozone layer leading to global warming. Jim Phelps spotted the predominate mechanisms for global warming and found ways to lessen the damage using commercial aircraft to make cloud systems to cool the Earth.
The inventions came from direct experience at the Oak Ridge National Lab and working the Q-cleared world of DOE’s nuclear weapons complex. This piece is about the origin of the Ozone Hole and the methods in use and being designed to attempt to fix what man’s pollution has done to our weather and environment. Chemtrails are, in essence, the man-made massive global white clouds that are the harbinger for Christ’s message.
If you have ever wondered about chemtrails; What they are, How they work, Who designed them, or Who is responsible then it is all right here in these pages for all to see. Here one can read the science behind chemtrails, the real mechanisms for global warming, and the common sense reasons for what is happening.
http://members.aol.com/doestar/chemtrails.html

Christ dit, Christ dat, ik weet niet hoe serieus ik dit moet nemen...?

The central problem is lots of people simply don’t know the common sense of religion and what inspired Moses writings and the game he set up to make the Jews his volcano god’s chosen people. Moses system was designed upon one thing and that was to suppress the methods he used to resist the damage factors from fluorine using the manna effect that Midian’s lead priest ole Jethro helped to teach him. That special trick is what made the Jews god’s chosen people.

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Gepost: 04 november 2007 10:31 AM   [ Negeer ]   [ # 737 ]  
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Hoewel hij wel een zinnig verhaal heeft [wat ik altijd al gedacht heb, special fuel om het broeikaseffect tegen te gaan.]

Note: The chemtrail plumes here are the result of a decade long restructuring effort on jet engine designs and jet fuels. The process cost billions of dollars to achieve. The design goal was very wet plumes of chemtrials to both absorb HF and induce rainfall from clouds already absorbing HF. The goal is to cut the global warming effects using this method.

No public involvement was used in the process that highly affects our skies and the sunlight reaching the planet’s surface.

Once one reads the reasoning behind the need for chemtrials, one also can understand why the process was kept secret from public involvement and no cost was too high to modify the outcome of the trend of global warming.

The entire process was essentially illegal and used excuses like national security and national emergency to make it happen in secret. What it was about was taking the citizens’ hostage from a serious problem that affects everyone on the entire planet due to mistakes made in the Manhattan Project and by DuPont.

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Gepost: 04 november 2007 10:32 AM   [ Negeer ]   [ # 738 ]  
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Chemtrails affecting the weather is easy to establish. All the photos show chemtrails in the summertime that are thick and start to drop or fall. Chemtrials are not cirrus clouds as some say and they don’t sublime. Chemtrails linger and go from horizon to horizon often. They are not natural and they fall. You can see the chemtrails fall distribution from the ground during the summer humid climate periods.

So, when you get chemtrail ice falling it gains more mass as it falls and if there are nimbus clouds below, it sets up cloud seeding for rain. Chemtrails can and do induce rain.

Simple jet condensate trials from the 11% fuels and old engine designs do make the more cirrus like clouds that don’t fall and they do sublime rapidly. Contrails don’t make weather.

With the fall effects of chemtrails, comes the acids being pulled out of the atmosphere, with HF and HCl that do upset the polar region’s global warming factor. Chemtrails attempt to offset the more intense warming over the poles.

Chemtrails were designed to act just like the greenery over some earth sheltered house sky windows. In the summer, the vines grow and shield the windows from heat. Chemtrails do the very same thing. In the warmer and more humid month they make the larger particles that will reflect IR wavelengths and add cooling to the hemisphere of the planet in the summer season. The hemisphere in winter does not have the high moisture levels and thus less chemtrail density and the winters stay net warmer. Chemtrail techniques are intentionally selective in their reflection of IR based on seasonal variations.

The first ideas for chemtrail technique used the catalysts in the low hydrogen fuels to attract water vapor. The second-generation chemtrail technique moved the catalysts back into the refineries and upped the hydrogen to the point that chemtrails of the correct densities form. It is about rain, IR warming weather control, and pulling acids from the skies. It is basically called the DOE Global Shield Project.

Back when jet planes came into being in WWII, the jets used “naptha” based fuels that were down in the 11 % hydrogen range. These were selected because the military did not want these vapor trails pointing to bombers or fighters. They also had some sense about marking up the skies even from commercial aircraft---so the low hydrogen naptha grade was the choice.

With the advent of problems from man-made pollution issues----the jet fuels were modified to remove more sulfur and cut the SOx problems. The method that did this was via hydrogen to make hydrogen sulfide that could be removed in the refining process. It also left more hydrogen in the products.

Refineries also lost a lot of gases that also came into regulation, so they were forced to seal these off and cut the emissions of VOC’s and all the emissions. They did this with the help of catalysts. And they also used catalysts to up amount of the heavies in the distillation column that could be converted to lighter fuels.

As this happened the jet fuels were switched from the contrail type 11 % hydrogen naptha based fuels to the chemtrail 14% hydrogen kerosene based jet fuels. Ask anyone that has ever used kerosene to heat how much water these things make and literally make the walls wet. All this has been carefully guided by regulatory methods to shape the hydrogen content in the fuels to that best suited to chemtrail shading methods.

The chemtrails are the direct effects of catalysts to change the refinery systems, so as to increase the hydrogen content in the fuels and up the jet plume water content to the point that they make these more dense plumes with large particles that reflect IR wavelengths to deal with global warming. The large dense particles mean you get heavy particles that fall and induce weather/ rain effects in the lower cloud formations.

First generation chemtrails were from catalysts in the fuel, and so are second generation chemtrails less directly. It is just a matter of where they were added in the process. The net intent has always been to use jet planes as catalysts for mediation of the IR absorption of heat from the Sun, aka global warming. And to use the heavy particles as rain makers to get some of the heat absorbing acid effects out of the air and to keep things like Cl and F from being able to collect to higher concentrations at the poles. Chemtrail methods go after even the polar ice melt rates.

It is very easy to explain how chemtrails do affect the weather, make for rain seeding, and do mediate the global warming effects.

Once you know that gasoline is around 15% hydrogen content----then you can see also that gas planes flying the same altitudes of jets, also make chemtrails that do more seriously affect the weather and they don’t dissipate. Contrails do dissipate and they do sublime rapidly and in the history of jets using naptha fuels (sans chemtrail additive methods), they did not affect the weather---nor did they mark up the skies and screw up the soil acid induced metals and fluoride levels.

First generation chemtrails methods were aimed at the dry naptha type fuels and second generation chemtrails methods is the wet kerosene A-1 / JP-8 type fuel.

Add these new fuels to the high by-pass jet engine designs and one gets jet chemtrials to remove the acids from the air using jet planes as catalysts.

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Gepost: 04 november 2007 11:58 AM   [ Negeer ]   [ # 739 ]  
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Waterdamp is juist het sterkste broeikasgas dus het zal er niet minder warm van worden.

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Gepost: 04 november 2007 12:23 PM   [ Negeer ]   [ # 740 ]  
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ordo ab chao - 04 november 2007 11:58 AM

Waterdamp is juist het sterkste broeikasgas dus het zal er niet minder warm van worden.

hoe kom je daar nou bij? Denk maar eens aan de wit geverfde kassen in het westland.

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Gepost: 04 november 2007 01:38 PM   [ Negeer ]   [ # 741 ]  
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ordo ab chao - 04 november 2007 11:58 AM
Waterdamp is juist het sterkste broeikasgas dus het zal er niet minder warm van worden.

hoe kom je daar nou bij? Denk maar eens aan de wit geverfde kassen in het westland.

http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&q=water+vapour+greenhouse&btnG=Google+zoeken&meta;=

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Gepost: 04 november 2007 02:43 PM   [ Negeer ]   [ # 742 ]  
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Mijn vergelijking met een tuinbouwkas gaat niet helemaal op geloof ik.

Het wit op de kassen dient om de zon door te laten en de warmte buiten te houden.

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Gepost: 04 november 2007 11:44 PM   [ Negeer ]   [ # 743 ]  
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scharrelslaafje - 14 oktober 2007 12:17 PM

Mijn mening: deels waar, deels hoax;

Zeker is dat diverse overheden in het verleden hebben geexperimenteerd met de effecten van chemicalien op de bevolking, zowel op individuen als als op grote groepen - zonder instemming van de proefkonijnen. Ik heb niet veel rede om te denken dat dat nu niet meer gebeurt.
Ook is zeker dat er “weather modification” plaats vindt, alleen is niet duidelijk op welke schaal dat gebeurt.
Maar het is zowiezo vaag om dat allemaal samen te vatten onder “chem trails”, en ik betwijfel of het op zo’n grote schaal gebeurt als door chem trail aanhangers wordt beweerd.

Goed gezegds, maar volgens mij is dit alles van het BULLSHIT DEPARTMENT.

Als je een beetje duikt in aviation, en nadenkt over de logistiek, dan weet je dat dit echt niet kan heden ten dage.
Misschien wel expirimenteel, maar de mensen die praten over niet oplossende strepen zouden beter een s iets over de athmospheer leren , en over het weer.

Stel jezelf de volgende vragen:

1- hoeveel mensen zouden hier dan wel niet mee betrokken moeten zijn?
2- hoe is dit geheim te houden?
3- weer deskundigen moeten er nou bij betrokken zijn
4- alleen militair? die vliegen niet zo veel boven nederland
5- en internationale vluchten dan? Lufthansa ook in het complot en Korean air ook?
6- ook de fabrikanten van de stoffen?
7- ook het grondpersoneel, piloten en zo?
8- niemand trekt aan de bel?
9- en wat is het effect dan als het waar is? ik merk niks hoor..
10- de meet en snuffel systemen overal merken dan niks? ook in complot?
11- het waait niet naar buurlanden? ook in de complotten? global?
12- enz..

als je er goed over na denkt klopt er geen bal van, kijk eens voor de lol op een serieuze
aviatie site, zoals airliners.net, en vergelijk de foto’s eens?

Ach, als je maar ergens in gelooft.. ik in elk geval niet.
Overtuig me dan, maar geen links en zo, maar je eigen verhaal.

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Gepost: 05 november 2007 12:58 AM   [ Negeer ]   [ # 744 ]  
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Hij vertelt zijn eigen verhaal… LOL
http://zaplog.nl/zaplog/article/its_a_chemtrail_not_a_contrail/

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Gepost: 19 november 2007 03:35 PM   [ Negeer ]   [ # 745 ]  
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http://www.goodsky.homestead.com/files/deception5.html

We often said that we created weather over Europe. They would persist for many hours, maybe days. We flew a different route coming back than going in partly to avoid the contrail clouds that we created. There are some pictures of contrails on my web site - none of these are shown to be very heavy but there were time when we were near the end of the bomber stream and the contrails were so dense that it was no dfferent than flying in clouds.

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Gepost: 21 november 2007 12:59 AM   [ Negeer ]   [ # 746 ]  
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Ik heb een interessant filmpje gevonden over chemtrails:
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http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-3432894828304200783

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Gepost: 21 november 2007 02:53 AM   [ Negeer ]   [ # 747 ]  
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wat een bagger.... kan het nog sugestiever?
die stem alleen al...iiieeeuww…

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Gepost: 21 november 2007 04:36 PM   [ Negeer ]   [ # 748 ]  
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what are normal contrails?

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Gepost: 28 november 2007 04:38 PM   [ Negeer ]   [ # 749 ]  
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Nieuw bewijs dat de overheid chemicalien sproeit over de bevolking
http://www.xerson.nl/content/view/471/
Het bewijs dat de overheid toestaat chemicalien te sproeien met menselijke proefkonijnen, is te vinden in de Amerikaanse wetten:

PUBLIC LAW 95-79 [P.L. 95-79] TITLE 50, CHAPTER 32, SECTION 1520 “CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WARFARE PROGRAM”
“The use of human subjects will be allowed for the testing of chemical and biological agents by the U.S. Department of Defense, accounting to Congressional committees with respect to the experiments and studies.”
“The Secretary of Defense [may] conduct tests and experiments involving the use of chemical and biological [warfare] agents on civilian populations [within the United States].” -SOURCE- Public Law 95-79, Title VIII, Sec. 808, July 30, 1977, 91 Stat. 334. In U.S. Statutes-at-Large, Vol. 91, page 334, you will find Public Law 95-79. Public Law 97-375, title II, Sec. 203(a)(1), Dec. 21, 1982, 96 Stat. 1882. In U.S. Statutes-at-Large, Vol. 96, page 1882, you will find Public Law 97-375.

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Gepost: 28 november 2007 05:23 PM   [ Negeer ]   [ # 750 ]  
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Dat is al heel oud nieuws, zegt wel veel over je overheid als ze zichzelf het recht geven om mensen als proefkonijnen te gebruiken zonder ze in te lichten.

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