Rectificatie
Hier stond aanvankelijk het afschuwelijke beeldverslag van wat wij dachten een recentelijk incident in Gaza te zijn. Zo staat het ook op vele andere blogs vermeld.
In werkelijkheid was het een filmpje van een incident in September 23, 2005, waarbij een voertuig dat deelnam aan een parade van Hamas ontplofte.
Het filmpje is inmiddels 140.000 maal bekeken en niemand had kennelijk de moeite genomen de tekst erbij te lezen. Ook wij niet. Excuses. Laat het een les zijn. Waarom het filmpje juist nu pas op Liveleak geplaatst werd, is onduidelijk.
maar waarom schieten ze dan ook me die raketten / vuurpijlen op Israel
maar waarom schieten ze dan ook me die raketten / vuurpijlen op Israel
Hoeveel van deze raketaanvallen waren valse vlag en afgeschoten door Israel zelf?
SANCHEZ: And he said that most news organizations have ignored the possibility that the people who actually broke the ceasefire was not the Palestinians, not Hamas in Gaza. What he said -- in fact, let -- I think we've got it. Dan, play this, and then we'll give you some more information on it. Let's go ahead and go to that.
SANCHEZ: And you know what we did? I've checked with some of the folks here at our international desk, and I went to them and asked, What was he talking about, and do we have any information on that? Which they confirmed, two months ago -- this is back in November -- there was an attack. It was an Israeli raid that took out six people.
Now, let me refer you -- it's not just us. We've checked in other periodicals. Johnny (ph), go over my shoulder, if you can. Here we go. "The six-month ceasefire started coming apart at the beginning of November after Israeli commandos killed a team of Hamas fighters during a raid on a tunnel they suspected was being dug for kidnapping of Israeli soldiers. That raid set off more Palestinian rocketing." That's "U.S. News and World Report."
I got another one for you, I believe, here. OK, this is "The Guardian" -- questionable, but nonetheless. "A four-month ceasefire between Israel and Palestinian militants in Gaza was in jeopardy today" -- this was actually reported when it happened -- "after Israeli troops killed six gunmen in a raid in the territory." That's important to report.
And here we go, as well, from the Economist.com, and the point of contention here is this one. Johnny, one more. "The last straw came in November, when Israelis killed six gunmen it said were digging tunnels to launch a raid onto Israel, spurring Hamas to respond with a barrage of rockets."
So the question as to who started this -- and we've been hearing that the Israelis say they had to do this because, suddenly, the ceasefire had been broken in Gaza by the Hamas and the Palestinians. Is this now a little more in question?
As we speak zijn ze onder leiding van Gretta Duisenberg en Dries van Agt op het Museumplein aan het demonstreren tegen de Israëlische luchtaanvallen in Gaza. Boodschap: Israël is de agressor, Nederland is medeplichtig en vrijheid voor Palestina. Aangezien bovenstaand gezelschap een nogal eendimensionale uitleg van de feiten geeft, krijgt u van ons een stukje achtergrondinformatie inzake dit conflict. Israël wordt namelijk al geruime tijd door Hamas bestookt met raketten. Doel? Het vernietigen van Israël. De wereldwijd als terreurorganisatie aangemerkte Hamas wordt hierbij gesteund door Iran. Hierop past slechts een antwoord en daarmee is Israël nu bezig. Met precisieaanvallen worden kopstukken van Hamas definitief uitgeschakeld. (Hierrr het Dumpert-kanaal van het Israelische leger.) Getracht wordt het aantal burgerslachtoffers tot een minimum te beperken. Niks oorlogsmisdaden dus, zoiets noemen wij vergelding. Tot zover het stukje aanvullende info. We report, you decide...
Fleischbaum | 03-01-09 | 13:34
We report, you decide
Hoeveel van deze raketaanvallen waren valse vlag en afgeschoten door Israel zelf?
Israeli officer: I was right to shoot 13-year-old child
A tape recording of radio exchanges between soldiers involved in the incident, played on Israeli television contradicts the army's account of the events and appears to show that the captain shot the girl in cold blood.
On the tape, the company commander then "clarifies" why he killed Iman: "This is commander. Anything that's mobile, that moves in the zone, even if it's a three-year-old, needs to be killed. Over."
The army's original account of the killing said that the soldiers only identified Iman as a child after she was first shot. But the tape shows that they were aware just how young the small, slight girl was before any shots were fired.
The case came to light after soldiers under the command of Captain R went to an Israeli newspaper to accuse the army of covering up the circumstances of the killing.
A subsequent investigation by the officer responsible for the Gaza strip, Major General Dan Harel, concluded that the captain had "not acted unethically"
concluded that the captain had "not acted unethically"
Press TV: Israeli foreign minister (Tzipi Livni) also says that Israel wants to negotiate peace with what she calls moderate Palestinians. On the other hand, we see Mahmoud Abbas saying that peace talks are meaningless under the current situation wherein Israel is targeting all Palestinians, so where does that leave Israel?
Finkelstein: Well we have to be clear what Israel means by moderate Palestinians. The Hamas leadership in recent years has signaled that it is willing to negotiate a two-state settlement according to the June 1967 border and also the resolution of the refugee question. That means that Hamas has signaled to do what the international community has wanted Israel to do over the past 30 years.
Israel rejects such a two-state settlement because it wants to continue its control of the West Bank. So for Israel a moderate Palestinian means the one who rejects all the terms proposed by the international community, a Palestinian who rejects the position of Hamas. For Israel a moderate Palestinian is a Palestinian who is willing to do whatever Israel wants: is a Palestinian who is willing follow Israeli orders.
Waarom nuken we gewoon die hele zooi daar niet?En gvd waarom doet de gewone man/vrouw in de straat maar gewoon alsof dit de 'normale gang van zaken" is?
@Sandman
Nu maar hopen dat Israël het Hamas gezwel uit de Gazastrook weet te snijden. Want anders moet Israël misschien naar een ander middel grijpen,denkend aan de kernbom op Hiroshima, waardoor binnen twee dagen een einde aan de 2e WO kwam.
Knowing that they are legitimate targets why on earth would they allow children to be anywhere close to military action?
Is it one of those,.. "take your kids to work" days?
Or is it one of those... arab things... getting the video they wanted. I wouldnt doubt if they set up the whole scene to be targetted and invited kids for free ice cream. Arabs at their best yet again.
Given the opportunity, an organization like hamas would INTENTIONALLY do this day in and day out.
Seems they get everything they ask for. Want death and destruction,.. provoke Isreal. Want childrens lives ended abruptly, have hamas organize events!
Ze roepen dit dus over hun zelf af, dus heb ik geen medelijden met deze zwakzinnige figuren
En geloof mij nu maar
Niet alleen zou de centrale schoon drinkwater helpen produceren. Deze zou bovendien op aardgas draaien - aardgas dat betrokken zou worden uit het Gaza Marine-1 aardgasveld, dat vlak voor de kust van Gaza is gelegen en in 1999 door British Gas is ontdekt. Maar de Israeli's hebben de Palestijnen verhinderd om een pijpleiding te bouwen, die hen in staat zou stellen het eigen gas te gebruiken. De centrale in Gaza is bijgevolg genoodzaakt brandstof van elders te betrekken - jazeker uit Israel. Het aardgas van Gaza blijft onaangeroerd, waarmee het een van de grootste niet in productie genomen aardgasvelden in het Midden-Oosten is.
Die mensen daar zijn zo 1 dimensionaal bezig met hun Ahhal hakbar, en Israel moet dood, dat lukt me nooit.
Ik zou binnen 2 minuten met een alternatief komen, en een strandhuisje op Gaza strand bouwen met een Israelische buurman.
Je komt nu met een heel verhaal, maar mijn argumentatie dat Abbas de gematigde kant vertegenwoordigd, sla je voor het gemak maar even over.
Before it falls down the memory hole, we should remember that last week, Hamas offered a ceasefire in return for basic and achievable compromises. Don't take my word for it. According to the Israeli press, Yuval Diskin, the current head of the Israeli security service Shin Bet, "told the Israeli cabinet [on 23 December] that Hamas is interested in continuing the truce, but wants to improve its terms." Diskin explained that Hamas was requesting two things: an end to the blockade, and an Israeli ceasefire on the West Bank. The cabinet – high with election fever and eager to appear tough – rejected these terms.
The core of the situation has been starkly laid out by Ephraim Halevy, the former head of Mossad. He says that while Hamas militants – like much of the Israeli right-wing – dream of driving their opponents away, "they have recognised this ideological goal is not attainable and will not be in the foreseeable future." Instead, "they are ready and willing to see the establishment of a Palestinian state in the temporary borders of 1967." They are aware that this means they "will have to adopt a path that could lead them far from their original goals" – and towards a long-term peace based on compromise.
The rejectionists on both sides – from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran to Bibi Netanyahu of Israel – would then be marginalised. It is the only path that could yet end in peace but it is the Israeli government that refuses to choose it. Halevy explains: "Israel, for reasons of its own, did not want to turn the ceasefire into the start of a diplomatic process with Hamas."
Why would Israel act this way? The Israeli government wants peace, but only one imposed on its own terms, based on the acceptance of defeat by the Palestinians. It means the Israelis can keep the slabs of the West Bank on "their" side of the wall. It means they keep the largest settlements and control the water supply. And it means a divided Palestine, with responsibility for Gaza hived off to Egypt, and the broken-up West Bank standing alone. Negotiations threaten this vision: they would require Israel to give up more than it wants to. But an imposed peace will be no peace at all: it will not stop the rockets or the rage. For real safety, Israel will have to talk to the people it is blockading and bombing today, and compromise with them.
The sound of Gaza burning should be drowned out by the words of the Israeli writer Larry Derfner. He says: "Israel's war with Gaza has to be the most one-sided on earth... If the point is to end it, or at least begin to end it, the ball is not in Hamas's court – it is in ours."
Mark | 04-01-2009 22:13
De tekst bij de video van Liveleak is aangepast:
I believe Israel’s lack of financial investment in PR is a major mistake, and Israel needs to invest in the PR battle as much as she does on the ground for military battle. Owing a PR agency, I view PR in business terms, rather than as an ideologue, and allow me to be the rare Zionist who says that Israel’s foreign media problems aren’t strictly about anti-Semitism, inherent bias or hatred, in reality Israel doesn’t invest or money. Israel’s PR problems? It's business, stupid.
@Inanna | 04-01-2009 21:01
En jij denkt de Palestijnse zaak te dienen, door de regering Abbas vanuit Nederland in een discutabele positie te brengen. Een soort revolutie binnen de oorlog.
Als al die gematigde Palestijnen uit Gaza, zich nu voor Abbas hadden uitgesproken, hadden er nu heel wat doden en gewonden minder te betreuren zijn.
Nogmaals Hamas: we gaan door tot de laatste Palestijn, niet het laatste Hamaslid, nee de laatste Palestijn.
Dit betekent dat Hamas het volk mis/gebruikt en het liefst als levend schild om hun eigen hachje te redden.
Gaza kunb je nog het beste vergelijken met De ghetto's die gevormd werden rond 1939 in Polen.... Ik zie geen verschil tussen Gaza en de Ghetto van Warschau.... medicijnen water electra voedsel alles wordt door de Israelis gecontroleerd en is niet vrij invoerbaar .
President-elect Obama is getting whacked by the left for declining comment on Israel’s onslaught on Gaza, but his prudent silence is just as discomfiting to the Israeli government and its allies here, in the United States. They wanted a ringing endorsement of their onslaught. There were also hints in their demeanor on television that Obama’s senior aides like David Axelrod were not overly delighted with Israel’s state propagandists for headlining Obama’s remarks on a visit to Israel in the summer that "If somebody shot rockets at my house where my two daughters were sleeping at night, I'd do everything in my power to stop them.”
On the campaign trail and, indeed, since he reached the U.S. Senate in 2005, no politician was more sedulous that Barack Obama in ensuring that the Israel lobby here had no cause for disquiet. On arrival in Washington, he instantly selected Joe Lieberman, known informally as the senator from Israel, as his mentor. At the annual conference this last summer of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee Obama drew criticism from across a broad political spectrum for his groveling.
“Israel should get whatever it wants and an undivided Jerusalem should be its capital,” Obama assured the American Jewish delegates, many of them influential Democrats from across the U.S. The next day, one of his foreign policy advisors hastily issued a clarification to the effect that Obama believes "Jerusalem is a final status issue, which means it has to be negotiated between the two parties" as part of "an agreement that they both can live with." The aide refused to rule out such possibilities as Jerusalem also serving as the capital of a Palestinian state or Palestinian sovereignty over Arab neighborhoods.
Noam Chomsky remarked recently. “With Obama, Israel and less than 2 per cent of the American population is now in full control of the American government.” So, is there any evidence that when he sits down in the Oval Office, Obama will try to set a new course?
Iedereen die het nieuws volgt, of de nieuwsgroepen, weet dat Hamas het bestand eenzijdig heeft opgezegd omdat de tijd rijp was voor deze misplaatste martelaren-actie.
http://zapruder.nl/portal/tellafriend/12953/